This is v important issue for the future of the UK profession and matters to us a lot.

Now Sir Colin has to try to draw together a very disparate set of comments. This will be fun! Subject to usual caveats.

Now Chris Mercer is examining what a Patent Attorney would need to know in order to competently practice before UPC. We know most already

(2) puts PAs on a register which could be useful but perhaps removes the jurisdiction of IPReg to oversee this work as regulator.

Hmmm we are now getting a rift as to whether patent attorneys want to qualify under Art 48(1) or (2) - did not see that coming.

2000 PAs can litigate at IPEC; 70 with higher litigation certificate; 6 with higher advocacy certificate (of whom 4 are here tonight)

Vicki Salmon now - one possibility is that it be up to individual countries what is "lawyer".We believe that UK patent attorneys are lawyers

Expert group had handed to legal group the current stage of the draft Rules of Procedure of the #UPC - these will also affect representation

Will be handled by HR and judicial training group of prep cttee. They establish advisory group and Sir Colin is UK rep on that group.

Roger Burt president of @TheCIPA gets us going and now over to Neil Feinson of @The_IPO for some context - knows how much it matters to us

About to discuss rights of representation at #UPC @TheCIPA and @The_IPO with Hon Mr Colin Birss who will represent UK views to prep Cttee.

I nominate @silverstar22b for a Shorty Award in #photography coz his pics are next best thing to actually being in JP http://t.co/Tasm19YJqw

@silverstar22b: My lemonade contains artificial flavoring. My laundry detergent contains real lemons. wtf!” Enjoy irony hint #chemophobia

RT @UkipWeather: A lingering look between 2 men at a gym in York has sparked concerns from residents living near the River Ouse

@Protohedgehog I suspect it was around the same time that UK stopped believing that higher education should be free and for same reason

@d0ug7a5 the better option is surely to eat it all so the "take back to London" choice does not arise

@professor_dave Thank you for the tip. Result likely to be posted via other social media channels (=FB).

@dustshoveller So spa they named it twice - lucky him. Aspect of German culture that I have never tried

@dustshoveller Is Mr D organ fiddling?

@dustshoveller Like me with Russian - I can tell case and declension but no idea what the noun means (just got back from Vigil of Theophany)

@professor_dave My boyfriend is very happy with this suggestion so looks like I may get it this week

@dustshoveller They never learn. In #SilentWitness this week someone got in to drive a car without first checking back seat #rookieerror

@ElisabethHWolf Sorry meant to add - it was not the trauma of this that caused me to give up research and become a patent attorney ;-)

@ElisabethHWolf yes indeed.

@ElisabethHWolf it was certainly odd. The proposal was all worked out for fellowship so I just needed to reproduce it in consular office.

@ElisabethHWolf When I went to Japan to do post-doc embassy in London made me write proposal then and there to get visa.

@dustshoveller coincidentally about the same actually. We know because they register us in case we run away or worry the sheep.

@dustshoveller ah world of information management = medium sized village.

@dustshoveller BTW did you see that on original post there is now a sniffy comment explaining the difference between library and archive

@dustshoveller Well I will enquire when I see the felines in question what the full story is.

@dustshoveller The Kat and presumably Mrs Kat in this case reside in Israel - is terminology or job description different there perhaps?

@Protohedgehog Sorry not to be able to make it today. Have fun and I hope to catch another one.

"this Kat is not quite sure what an archivist is meant to be doing" http://t.co/qODsgqB1Pl - made me think of @dustshoveller

RT @TomChivers "I just boil with hate for people who put more than three dots in their ellipses." Now I no longer feel like grumpiest pedant

RT @RSC_Science: "Chemicals" - it's not a dirty word. (From @KlaasWynne). #chemophobia http://t.co/WpG27pfM5j

I called it "a hideously deformed chimera that not even its mother could love" - do you think it was clear that I am not a fan?

I won't shut up until people listen - more issues with EU Nagoya-implementing regulation, post last night http://t.co/xpPKtNOJTH

RT @Ipkat: Supporters of Nagoya had better watch out when Darren S is about: he makes some very cogent criticisms here http://t.co/DhKqQxdj…

RT @bjh_ip: Had a good seminar with @EIP_Legal - amazing to see how well it all works in practice; @EIP are living the future of IP law.

@kanyewest "wins". #COINYE gives up #trademark: http://t.co/ICgz2rTbdi